On a side note, I was watching U2 playing live from the Rose Bowl on Youtube. Brilliant by the way.
Throughout the concert they would have video/graphic inserts playing back on big screens...
...so who else saw the very prominent counter/clock insert video that appeared an hour or so into the concert - full screen, bold white numerals on a solid black background - that appeared and counted the last few seconds up to (then stopping dead on) 3:33.33?
Pretty much following my line of thought. A probe crashing into the surface of a series of glass domes breaking the kinetic impact up so that instead of the rocket crashing into the surface and vaporizing, it is likely that the remains of the rocket are still lying embedded into the structure.
I was watching live. No way was there an "explosion" and like I said, cutting the gamma drastically just minutes prior to prevent too much clarity of the lunar surface due to "overwhelming the bandwidth" just does not hold water. If yo are paying 57 mill for a camera, that transmitter damn well better carry all the bandwidth and then some, and there is no fuxing way the "contrast" could have overwhelmed the bandwidth.
A picture frame can only have a MAXIMUM amount of data equal to it's color depth. for greyscale that is 255 x # of pixels. For color at 24 bit that is 16m x #of pixels.
This DOES NOT VARY REGARDLESS OF PICTURE COMPLEXITY. A completely black picture has exactly the same sized file as a completely white picture. (0.0.0 to 255.255.255)
This is uncompressed. The same number of bits will be set aside for each pixel regardless of value. 16 is usually grey scale. 24 to 36 is true color. Each frame will have the exact same sized file no matter HOW COMPLEX the image.
Compression is used to reduce file size. The image complexity DOES affect how compressed a file can be.
For a long range probe like HiRise, I can see the need to compress due to the number of bad packets lost due to interference.
But for a short range probe to the moon, such compression should not be needed,even with interference a large enough carrier pipe should be possible to send UNCOMPRESSED data at full resolution in real time.
Thus, the "contrast overwhelming the bandwidth" rung false to me at the time of the live feed, and still rings false to me.
Either the radio transmitters that they put in were ridiculously underpowered, or they were lying and simply cut the gamma to hide what was there.
"Either the radio transmitters that they put in were ridiculously underpowered, or they were lying and simply cut the gamma to hide what was there."
AMEN!!!
The radio transmitters were not underpowered any more than somebody 'forgot' the difference between meters and yards/feet in that (supposed) Martian probe 'fiasco'. Either people are incompetent at their jobs and get pink-slipped or they are good at their jobs and keep them. Once again, I see no pink-slips being handed out to folks for having screwed up, so therefore they did not.
There was plenty of bandwidth, and cutting the gamma at the last minute was a brazen act of censorship.
I don't know much about Nasa censorship Marsandro, what I know is digital graphics files since I'm both a Artist and a computer tech and do my artwork on a computer.
Uncompressed digital images will always have the same file size to pixel ratio regardless of complexity of scene. #Height x #Width x Color Depth.
a 300x300x16 file will be the exact same size file regardless of whether it is showing a blank white page or a Mandelbrot fractal. Every digital camera has a set resolution determined by the pixel resolution of the CCD. That image cannot change and the data rate from it is a constant no matter what it is viewing.
Contrast, btw is the level range between the darkest and lightest elements in a picture. It cannot go lower than black (0.0.0) nor go higher than white (255.255.255) (those are rgb values in fairly typical art program settings.) So saying a B&W picture has too much contrast is like saying it isn't black enough compared to how white it is.
Unless, and why in the world they would is beyond me, they were compressing everything down to Jpeg for video AT THE SOURCE(i.e. onboard the LCross), there is no way for the data stream from an uncompressed source to VARY in any way.
It is only if a picture needs to be COMPRESSED that the file size becomes a variable. Compression of a video stream should not be required for a probe that is no farther away then the moon. There simply is not enough attenuation of signal to downgrade performance that much, especially with modern electronics and packeted transmission protocols.
At first glance I'd say its a variant of the Beifield Brown Electrogravitic drives, ultra high voltage low amp capacitance charge. looks like they are using the housing as a dielectric.
providing it is using the hull as a dielectric, that might create a plasma ion sheath which would reduce wind drag enormously. Offhand, I'd not want to be outside when it's turned on.
I have often wanted to build a gyrocage out of magnetic loops so all three coils are at 90 deg to each other and run it through some high frequency high voltage experiments, just to test for myself some of Browns experiments
I'm limited in what I can say about the device I tested, as it's a company project.
However... :-)
I was trying to make a Correa device, but without the original patent info. What I had was not sufficient descriptive data for a properly done replication of the device.
The gap was far too small. I was using pure vacuum. Copper plates. Duh. Wrong....
They had a large gap, had argon gas (for the best results), and aluminum plates.
My output hookup also was coupled directly, rather than through a capacitive network like in their patent (or at least the one I got).
I had zip for power (i.e., I x E---small pun there), whereas they had 100-fold power gain...
But sheeeeeesh, I was blowing cheap digital meters one after another trying to read the output voltage!!!!!
I read off a 1K, in series with more 1meg and 10meg resistors than I thought would EVER be needed, but---kapow!---blew ANOTHER meter....
I even tried dropping the output resistor down to 100 ohms, with the same results.
The bifets were punching through from the high voltage, even though the current was so low that I couldn't even read it.
The DVM was set and connected to read 1.8KV.
As you know, 1 megavolt at one microamp is only 1 lousy watt....
But I must have had TERAvolts in that thing... assuming it wasn't even HIGHER.
I was getting the effect at around 17-23mm Hg with regular air. Full 30mm Hg and vacuum gave nothing. Talk about bizarre.
The meter would go out-of-range SUDDENLY when the gas pressure hit the critical range.
I wrote it up and sent it to my CEO up at the main office.
We plan to study it further at a later time. Other stuff cooking for now.
How's that?
:-)
Hathor -- Sharing a secret or two...
;-)
P.S.: The gap had a 30KV drive from an auto spark coil driven with RF power transistors switched with a custom-designed 555 array.
What do you think of his work? I could not help but notice how similar it is to the "star drive device" of Archer Enterprises.
Someone really needs to start asking, "Who ignored Einstein, dismissed the popular interpretation of the Michelson-Morley experiment, and is now visiting other galaxies in aether manipulation craft? And why is it so difficult for those who wish to do the same to find funding?"
I guess Hoagland's already asking that. But who in government is ever going to take him seriously? Both he, and anyone else remotely like him, is viciously caricatured by enormous numbers of influential people. Meanwhile, millions suffer horrendously from, at times, designed underdevelopment, and hubristical persons in science refuse all inkling of a revolution like that which happened in the Renaissance.
If it were possible, our very being is likely to be annihilated when the collective magnitude of human injustice and folly is revealed to us on Judgment Day...
T'Zaris, I removed all his posts and if he returns Maybe you can tell me how to ban him permanently (big hopeful puppy eyes)
Zakhur, don't know how much credence can be put in this, but according to Boylan, the Earth is controlled by a secret cabal of ancient reincarnating Atlanteans who deliberately ensure that the "sheeple" don't have access to anything which would threaten their rule. <.< >.> (personally I would need a bit more evidence than he presents)
Marsandro, I really wish finances would have left me able to finish getting my electronics engineering degree. At thos point I'd probably have to start classes from scratch again. Technology however is my main hobby, and Atlantology is a close second.
Which of course means I'd probably find exploring ancient highly technological ruins of previous human civilizations a dream job.
Anyway, I'd still be interested in your thoughts on my blog, confusing as it is. XP
Unfortunately, U2 has sold out to the Queen and the Illuminati. There was lots of occult symbology surrounding their last album release, A conspiracy radio show called "A View From Space" had an entire episode about that a while ago. I know that 3:33:33 is some kind of Illuminati and/or Masonic message since the number 33 is very important to both groups, although I don't know what it means to them exactly.
On a side note, I was watching U2 playing live from the Rose Bowl on Youtube. Brilliant by the way.
ReplyDeleteThroughout the concert they would have video/graphic inserts playing back on big screens...
...so who else saw the very prominent counter/clock insert video that appeared an hour or so into the concert - full screen, bold white numerals on a solid black background - that appeared and counted the last few seconds up to (then stopping dead on) 3:33.33?
It was a serious WTF moment :)
Heh. I suspected U-2 was obsessed with the esoteric.
ReplyDeletePretty much following my line of thought. A probe crashing into the surface of a series of glass domes breaking the kinetic impact up so that instead of the rocket crashing into the surface and vaporizing, it is likely that the remains of the rocket are still lying embedded into the structure.
ReplyDeleteI was watching live. No way was there an "explosion" and like I said, cutting the gamma drastically just minutes prior to prevent too much clarity of the lunar surface due to "overwhelming the bandwidth" just does not hold water. If yo are paying 57 mill for a camera, that transmitter damn well better carry all the bandwidth and then some, and there is no fuxing way the "contrast" could have overwhelmed the bandwidth.
A picture frame can only have a MAXIMUM amount of data equal to it's color depth. for greyscale that is 255 x # of pixels. For color at 24 bit that is 16m x #of pixels.
This DOES NOT VARY REGARDLESS OF PICTURE COMPLEXITY. A completely black picture has exactly the same sized file as a completely white picture. (0.0.0 to 255.255.255)
This is uncompressed. The same number of bits will be set aside for each pixel regardless of value. 16 is usually grey scale. 24 to 36 is true color. Each frame will have the exact same sized file no matter HOW COMPLEX the image.
Compression is used to reduce file size. The image complexity DOES affect how compressed a file can be.
For a long range probe like HiRise, I can see the need to compress due to the number of bad packets lost due to interference.
But for a short range probe to the moon, such compression should not be needed,even with interference a large enough carrier pipe should be possible to send UNCOMPRESSED data at full resolution in real time.
Thus, the "contrast overwhelming the bandwidth" rung false to me at the time of the live feed, and still rings false to me.
Either the radio transmitters that they put in were ridiculously underpowered, or they were lying and simply cut the gamma to hide what was there.
Lol - just shows up my lack of recent U2 knowledge :)
ReplyDeleteInteresting how they added an extra 33 in the seconds field. Though, what are an extra couple of 3's between friends ;)
Cheers Mike.
Bono knows
ReplyDeleteThanks Mike, (on the U2). I was about to post that the same thing.
ReplyDeleteBono writes in Mysterious Ways... that was one hell of a concert by the way. U2 are amazing.
... and back to Richard's interesting post.
p.s. - Actually, imagine the dinner conversation with Richard and Bono. I would pay to hear that one.
Val--
ReplyDelete"Either the radio transmitters that they put in were ridiculously underpowered, or they were lying and simply cut the gamma to hide what was there."
AMEN!!!
The radio transmitters were not underpowered any more than somebody 'forgot' the difference between meters and yards/feet in that (supposed) Martian probe 'fiasco'. Either people are incompetent at their jobs and get pink-slipped or they are good at their jobs and keep them. Once again, I see no pink-slips being handed out to folks for having screwed up, so therefore they did not.
There was plenty of bandwidth, and cutting the gamma at the last minute was a brazen act of censorship.
Peace,
T'Zairis
Anybody know what the deal is with Phil of B.A. fame (to avoid naming him)? Does he just have a weird attitude, or what is it?
ReplyDeleteI don't know much about Nasa censorship Marsandro, what I know is digital graphics files since I'm both a Artist and a computer tech and do my artwork on a computer.
ReplyDeleteUncompressed digital images will always have the same file size to pixel ratio regardless of complexity of scene. #Height x #Width x Color Depth.
a 300x300x16 file will be the exact same size file regardless of whether it is showing a blank white page or a Mandelbrot fractal. Every digital camera has a set resolution determined by the pixel resolution of the CCD. That image cannot change and the data rate from it is a constant no matter what it is viewing.
Contrast, btw is the level range between the darkest and lightest elements in a picture. It cannot go lower than black (0.0.0) nor go higher than white (255.255.255) (those are rgb values in fairly typical art program settings.) So saying a B&W picture has too much contrast is like saying it isn't black enough compared to how white it is.
Unless, and why in the world they would is beyond me, they were compressing everything down to Jpeg for video AT THE SOURCE(i.e. onboard the LCross), there is no way for the data stream from an uncompressed source to VARY in any way.
It is only if a picture needs to be COMPRESSED that the file size becomes a variable. Compression of a video stream should not be required for a probe that is no farther away then the moon. There simply is not enough attenuation of signal to downgrade performance that much, especially with modern electronics and packeted transmission protocols.
Hear-hear!
ReplyDeleteWell said, Val!
There's nothing quite like a woman who knows
her stuff! And you certainly do!
Between you and T'Zairis, NASA can keep trying
to obscure data until Hell freezes, and it's useless.
You've got 'em NAILED! :-))
:-)
Hathor -- Baking a cake for the Dynamic Duo
;-)
Oh T'Zairis,
ReplyDeleteI left a message on your blog under
the top title.
:-)
Hathor -- Checking messages...
;-)
At first glance I'd say its a variant of the Beifield Brown Electrogravitic drives, ultra high voltage low amp capacitance charge. looks like they are using the housing as a dielectric.
ReplyDeleteproviding it is using the hull as a dielectric, that might create a plasma ion sheath which would reduce wind drag enormously. Offhand, I'd not want to be outside when it's turned on.
I have often wanted to build a gyrocage out of magnetic loops so all three coils are at 90 deg to each other and run it through some high frequency high voltage experiments, just to test for myself some of Browns experiments
Hi Val,
ReplyDeleteI'm limited in what I can say
about the device I tested, as
it's a company project.
However... :-)
I was trying to make a Correa device, but without
the original patent info. What I had was not
sufficient descriptive data for a properly done
replication of the device.
The gap was far too small. I was using pure
vacuum. Copper plates. Duh. Wrong....
They had a large gap, had argon gas (for the
best results), and aluminum plates.
My output hookup also was coupled directly,
rather than through a capacitive network like
in their patent (or at least the one I got).
I had zip for power (i.e., I x E---small pun
there), whereas they had 100-fold power gain...
But sheeeeeesh, I was blowing cheap digital
meters one after another trying to read the
output voltage!!!!!
I read off a 1K, in series with more 1meg and
10meg resistors than I thought would EVER be
needed, but---kapow!---blew ANOTHER meter....
I even tried dropping the output resistor down
to 100 ohms, with the same results.
The bifets were punching through from the high
voltage, even though the current was so low that
I couldn't even read it.
The DVM was set and connected to read 1.8KV.
As you know, 1 megavolt at one microamp is only
1 lousy watt....
But I must have had TERAvolts in that thing...
assuming it wasn't even HIGHER.
I was getting the effect at around 17-23mm Hg
with regular air. Full 30mm Hg and vacuum gave
nothing. Talk about bizarre.
The meter would go out-of-range SUDDENLY when
the gas pressure hit the critical range.
I wrote it up and sent it to my CEO up at the main
office.
We plan to study it further at a later time.
Other stuff cooking for now.
How's that?
:-)
Hathor -- Sharing a secret or two...
;-)
P.S.: The gap had a 30KV drive from an auto
spark coil driven with RF power transistors
switched with a custom-designed 555 array.
:-)
Val and Marsandro,
ReplyDeleteHave either of you heard of John Searl? I just found out about him.
www.johnsearlstory.com
www.swallowcommand.com www.searlsolution.com www.searleffect.com
What do you think of his work? I could not help but notice how similar it is to the "star drive device" of Archer Enterprises.
Someone really needs to start asking, "Who ignored Einstein, dismissed the popular interpretation of the Michelson-Morley experiment, and is now visiting other galaxies in aether manipulation craft? And why is it so difficult for those who wish to do the same to find funding?"
I guess Hoagland's already asking that. But who in government is ever going to take him seriously? Both he, and anyone else remotely like him, is viciously caricatured by enormous numbers of influential people. Meanwhile, millions suffer horrendously from, at times, designed underdevelopment, and hubristical persons in science refuse all inkling of a revolution like that which happened in the Renaissance.
If it were possible, our very being is likely to be annihilated when the collective magnitude of human injustice and folly is revealed to us on Judgment Day...
T'Zaris, I removed all his posts and if he returns Maybe you can tell me how to ban him permanently (big hopeful puppy eyes)
ReplyDeleteZakhur, don't know how much credence can be put in this, but according to Boylan, the Earth is controlled by a secret cabal of ancient reincarnating Atlanteans who deliberately ensure that the "sheeple" don't have access to anything which would threaten their rule. <.< >.> (personally I would need a bit more evidence than he presents)
Marsandro, I really wish finances would have left me able to finish getting my electronics engineering degree. At thos point I'd probably have to start classes from scratch again. Technology however is my main hobby, and Atlantology is a close second.
Which of course means I'd probably find exploring ancient highly technological ruins of previous human civilizations a dream job.
Anyway, I'd still be interested in your thoughts on my blog, confusing as it is. XP
Unfortunately, U2 has sold out to the Queen and the Illuminati. There was lots of occult symbology surrounding their last album release, A conspiracy radio show called "A View From Space" had an entire episode about that a while ago. I know that 3:33:33 is some kind of Illuminati and/or Masonic message since the number 33 is very important to both groups, although I don't know what it means to them exactly.
ReplyDelete