Wednesday, June 25, 2008

New Study Confirms More Aspects of Mars Tidal Model

As you’ll recall, in 2001 Richard Hoagland and I published the Mars Tidal Model. In this extensive paper we argued that Mars was not a planet at all, but rather a moon of a now missing member of the solar system commonly called Planet V. We cited numerous lines of evidence supporting our hypothesis, including the existence of bands in Mars magnetic field comprised of alternating polarities. We argued that this magnetic banding was caused by multiple (and devastating) impacts to the Martian surface from high velocity debris released by the destruction of Planet V, Mars’ tidal locked parent body. In our scenario, the alternating bands of magnetic material were the result of standing P and S waves reverberating within the molten sea of material that made up the southern hemisphere of Mars below the line of dichotomy.

Now, new computer models have confirmed this aspect of our research. In several major news articles published today, three separate computer studies agree that the magnetic banding was caused by an asteroid impact. They argue that it was a single impact, rather than multitudes of them as our model suggests, but this is a minor point.

The news articles also maintain that this event took place at the dawn of the solar system, but this time frame is based on a bias that the more cratered southern hemisphere is older. According to the conventional geologic models of Mars’ formation, most impact events took place back in this time period because there was far more accretion debris in the solar system back then. Our model says exactly the opposite; that the more crated southern highlands below the line of dichotomy are a result of the pile-up of debris from the recent (65 MYA) destruction of Planet V.

This is just the latest in a series of observations and peer reviewed papers that have confirmed various aspects of the Mars Tidal Model.

More on the Mars Tidal Model can be found here.


  1. Wow, I had one of your blogs linked for ages. You get around. I haven't read this book, but it is good to see that there are intelligent blogs out there.

  2. Thx Enemy,

    Kind of left the Lunar Anomalies Blog for this one.

  3. Mike,
    wasn't there a .pdf for the original post of the tidal paper?
    At any rate, the .htm is garbled in the first 1 pages or so.

  4. Mike
    How does this tie in with Richard's assertion that our Moon was "borrowed " from elsewhere and brought here and placed into orbit around Earth?

  5. I wonder if the great builders that planned out the solar system were running a experiment. If not, then what seems to be the purpose of all their work. And why fool with us at all?

  6. People who build things usually do so for

    So what is our purpose? A built-in workforce?

    Servants? Slaves? Entertainment???


    Hathor - The Fair-Haired Slave Mistress


  7. ...."if only you could see what I've seen with your eyes..."

    - Roy Baty, Replicant
    To his genetic engineer creator in Blade Runner

  8. Soil on Mars has nutrients.

    Knowing what we know from Dark Mission, et al, tis but a kernal of the biggest picture. Are they slowly leading the rest of the public into the truth?

  9. What is TEM's take on JJ Hurtak?

  10. Here is the go-to info for an article at New Scientist about how Martian soil is basically like garden soil here on Earth, nutrient-wise. I was really laughing when I got to the 'asparagus and turnips would like the pH' part...

    So now they have to admit there's water, and the right kind of nutrients, and the temperatures are not too extreme at all for bacteria, algae, and tougher kinds of macro plant-life, so I guess the un-doctored pic of that GREEN swathe on Mars that the European probe took was right on the money...

    Of course, everyone who has been following things at TEM has known all along that there HAS to be some sort of life on Mars, but it is really nice to see that the leaks of confirming info are getting rather bigger.

    I still wonder what Shatner was hinting about re: 'hearing something soon about Mars'. Somehow, I don't think that Martian potting-soil was what he was referring to.



  11. Honestly, I’ve heard the name JJ Hurtak, but I know virtually nothing about him. Can you fill me in?

    Hmm, nuggets… AMWAV will be included in… something I can’t tell you about yet. Sorry, but we are finalizing some new stuff this week hopefully and after that I will be posting some announcements.
    - MB

  12. Hi T'Zairis,

    I'm still waiting for confirmation of Martian
    Mousie Bears! :-) (An admittedly silly term.
    My concept of humor.)

    There's Keith Laney's picture of one sunning
    itself on Mini-Matterhorn, and then there is
    the Pathfinder picture of one standing upright
    in plain sight, looking at the rover.

    Not to mention the pussycat looking under
    the ledge....

    A jet-black plain view....

    Then there's that YouTube video pan of the
    flying dragon pictures of some
    sort of flying "something" in the distance....

    Are they small and nearby? Or are they LARGE
    and distant?

    Could they be...FLYING DRAGONS?!

    Oh, and best of all, there's this one
    YouTube video that was assembled from a
    series of orbital shots of the same area of
    the arctic ice cap, and it shows the
    Martian "snow-dunes" STAMPEDING....

    I think the ultimate "life on Mars" revelation
    will be a real shocker.


    Hathor - The spice of life!


  13. When you consider The android head being as old as it must be, one thing should be clear. A robtic work force is easyer,more capiable of extended tasks then weak flesh and bone, and easy enough to program unquestionable control. So why replace them with a human work force? They wounld not make us for slave labor. We must have a compacity that would have made us worth the investment. Something maybe like the "star wars" concept of Force i think. Something the metal men could not do.

  14. I think nobody can answer when did the impact occur until we actually send humans to Mars and take soil samples as deep as 1,000 meters below the surface. That will allow us to determine using various radioactive dating methods just how old that massive impact on Mars was. That's the only way we can verify that there was really major impact(s) on Mars about 65 million years ago.

  15. Hi robert,

    Gotta love those comments of yours!

    Keep tellin' it like it is!


    Hathor - The Champion of Truth!


  16. Hi shamus,

    Interesting point....

    I wonder who whacked the robots? And why?

    They obviously were blown apart, or were in
    battle of some kind....


    Hathor - The REAL Warrior Princess!


  17. There seems to be a couple of paths to making us and leaving the metal men to the scrap heap. If they act up and start a war which would be a tough fight with machienes as a enemey, thus leaving them very weary of something so fearsome. So weak flesh and bone might not be such a bad trade off. Or we could look at the fact they built a orgainic machine that could produce "Torsion feild projection from thought alone" which would make the metal men weak compared to us!! then we act up and get partitioned from that part of the brain ... and thus here we are... just at theory!!

  18. Hello Dave 19.5, My sentiments exactly…..

    The entire planet Mars is of scientific interest…..However, This probe landed in the North pole on a nice flat area extending for miles. Really boring.

    Basically, The Phoenix probe landed in the middle of nowhere….

    An analogy…A alien race decides to send a probe to Earth. This probe lands in Antarctica or the Sahara Desert!….To me, Sending the Phoenix to the Martian North Pole is equivalent.

    They were worried of dangerous obstacles…They found a nice flat surface just to be safe…..They (NASA/MRO) made sure nothing of interest (i.e. Anything artificial) is around.

    Thirty years ago, The nuclear powered Viking probes landed in a rougher area than the Phoenix. People seem to more confident then….

    I am waiting for the next lander or rover to land in the deepest equatorial canyon. A region with lots of topography, warmer temperatures, greater atmospheric pressure, and maybe liquid H2O.

  19. Oh no, I'm not confused. You're a complete idiot. I'm clear on that.


  20. Hey ks15,

    How about a splashdown in Lake Steadman?


    Hathor - In a swimsuit on the beach


  21. Expat lets suppose you checked Mikes model out yourself and with citation and verse you could show that the Mars tidal model proposed by Mike and Richard turned out to somehow have been mistakenly reveiwed and mistakenly confirmed...which your uncited references show nothing of fraud as fraud is a crimial act to de-fraud results in damage to persons or property. I have to tell you slinging the word without direct proof fraud is a insult your moral ground is shaky. Second thing i would like to point out is the uncited couterpoint sounds alot like the stuff coming out the the honest and unright folks of Nasa that we know from the work of Dark mission .. these folks never lie... or maybe you should rethink your angle.

  22. Mike
    Would you shed some light on this quote:

    "There are very good reasons for doubting that there ever was a planet there. The primary reason is that we have pieces of the asteroid belt, as meteorites. When you subject then to an array of very sophisticated analysis and some not so sophisticated, one of the first things that you see, is that they were never pieces of a big planet. Many of them are in what is called a pristine or primordial condition. They have never been exposed to heat, they have never differentiated. Their minerals are in a primitive state compared to an advanced process state that occurs on a planet like the Earth. So it’s kind of hard to imagine how you build a world out of stuff that doesn’t carry the signature of a world"

    This was from the early 90's. Has science advanced enough to change these conclusions about the asteroids?

  23. Yo expat,

    What about all those smashed-up and
    blown-up robots lying all over the place?

    And with no "enhancement" necessary to see
    them clearly?

    One need only recognize the outlines---which
    I did, suddenly---and---

    ---with my "pareidolia" thus fully engaged---

    "My God...those are a bunch of smashed and
    blown-up robots lying everywhere!"

    And all pretty much the same "make and
    model," too.

    What about THEM?

    They're all in plain view in the original frame
    which you yourself posted.

    Naturally, they appear to the unobservant as
    mere "piles of rocks"....

    This is an indication of great age, as they
    obviously have *PETRIFIED* even in the
    lunar environment.


    Hathor - Walking among the fallen ones


  24. Fool,

    What's the reference? I don't even know who said that, but it's not true AFAIK.

    That's why the Deep Impact mission was so important. They thought they were going to get ice, they got rock. Quiet a shock because they we'ren't using the EPH from a starting point.

  25. A "trained photoshop operator," (translation: Expat's 12-year-old nephew) as opposed to Richard Hoagland, who was processing images and working with world class programmers back in the early 1980's before Photoshop or image processing even existed. LOL that's a good one.

    The tools in Photoshop were invented by the people Hoagland was learning from. I'll take Hoagy on this one...

  26. >>I'll take Hoagy on this one...<<

    ...even though he was working from prints whose quality he characterized as "really crappy"? As compared with a 46MB high-definition scan from the Hasselblad neg? You can't be serious.

  27. I would have to say Hoagland's cornerstone that convinces me of all of the observations, would be the countless numerical "coincidences" and astounding synchroncity. The ultimate credibility destroyer of JPL and NASA is the fact they landed on the Moon on Hitler's birthday, among other timed events. Those observations were just mind-jolting, as if the Cydonia measurements in his first book were not enough. I've never heard a real rebuttal from NASA on THAT. I'm really curious what the next book will reveal.

  28. >>"What evidence of crimal[sic] fraud do you have direct knowlegde[sic] of"<<

    None whatsoever. I'm not accusing Hoagland/Bara of anything criminal at all. I'm saying that an examination by a qualified Photoshop operator[1] of the original negative from crater 'Shorty' proves that the over-compressed jpg on the enterprisemission web site is a fake. That's all.

    [1] If I had a 12-yo nephew, and if he was properly trained, I wouldn't hesitate to give him the gig. But as it happens, neither condition applies. Sorry.

  29. WOW - Bara laying the smack down... should have been in the WWF.

    Bara goes for the pin....


  30. Mike
    Could those determinations about the asteroids not being part of a planet been plausible at the time that conclusion was made in the early 90's?

  31. Three so-called truisms some people past & present have arguably clinged to:

    1) "the world is flat";
    2) "if it makes me have to re-think my religious beliefs, it can't be true and is absurd to even consider";
    3) "NASA and other government space agencies can be trusted that information & photos they present to the general public is absolutely unaltered, unfiltered and genuine."

  32. David,

    Let's not forget the almighty "The Earth is the center of the universe."

    I think we all get the point, but it helps to see how foolish we humans can be when it comes to accepting new ideas... even when the evidence is overwhelming. :-D

  33. I suppose "2)" covers that one, but the point still stands.

  34. -- P.S.: Oh---I forget the source on this, but
    word is that the true atmosphereic pressure
    at Martian MSL(!!) is more like 0.67 Tor,
    rather than the vacuum-like .01 Tor that
    NASA claims. --

    You know, I've long wondered about the truth behind the atmosphere of Mars. Do you think it's possable that one of our early probes did find something intruigeing to warrent such a fabrication, or was it due to inferior technology reporting a false value? People seemed more comfortable with the idea that something is living on Mars, they expected it with most of the fiction flying around before the probes were sent. After the first Mariner flew by, is it possable (even with the crude equipment and resolution) that something was discovered that warented the disinformation, or did we know what was there way before the probes made it to the drawing board?

    Of course I'm just speculating here. I'm not offering any evidence, just offering my idea of what could be.

    As for our Feline-Human hybrid statue, I wonder if the reason for this recent buy was to study it. While it's being studied by "top men", a perfect replica is being created for display purposes, or perhaps for a study on materials to be done publicly to announce that there is nothing special about this artifact. Meanwhile the real artifact may be spilling secrets to those who either know already, or those who feel the general population shouldn't know the long-lost knowledge now coming to fruition. Very interesting indeed.

  35. Hi starborne,

    If the atmosphereic pressure on Mars is only
    .01 Tor as NASA claims, I have a couple of
    impertinent questions:

    1 - How do those animals we've seen breathe, and

    2 - How can *anything* fly, such as the dark
    bat-like flying objects of which so many
    pictures are now had?

    The latter is especially interesting if the
    bat-like objects are in fact the great flying
    dragons I now suspect (based on the bones of
    the aforementioned youtube video).

    Something THAT BIG, able to fly in an
    atmosphere of only .01 Tor? And to expend
    that much energy without breathing all the

    Talk about a "credibility gap"....

    And people bad-mouth HOAGLAND?!


    Hathor - Seeing through to the Truth


    P.S.: I forget after all these years
    (although I suppose I could research the
    point), but I think that 0.67 Tor was the
    value recorded by the first lander back in
    1976...then the result was quickly labelled
    "a mistake," and replaced with a "corrected
    value" of 0.01 Tor (which is practically

    I work with vacuum equipment periodically,
    and at 0.01 Tor,

    1 - There ain't no wind.
    2 - You don't breathe.
    3 - You don't fly.*

    (* Unless you're HYPERSONIC, that is.)

    It's like VACUUM.


  36. A quick addendum---

    We've been treated to some "spires of light"
    which fall into two categories:

    1 - the setting sun behind spires of glass
    (which naturally begs the question, Now
    just where did THOSE come from?), and

    2 - jets of flame (or plasma?) coming from
    somewhere underground---a sort of flammable
    version of "polar jets" (one or two of which
    *have* been seen, but which I seriously doubt
    can explain Arthur's Banyan Trees, which, by
    the way, are far more like giant mushrooms
    of the "Hen of the Woods" variety).

    Glass spires would be irrelevant to my point
    here, but jets of flame which do not show
    any significant expansion "out of the hole"

    would have to be leaving their former high
    pressure domains through their small surface
    orifices and encountering an atmosphere with
    a significant pressure.

    That is unequivocal.

    Otherwise, just like rocket motor plumes in
    the vacuum of space (or an atmosphere of
    0.01 Tor as NASA claims), these jets would
    immediately diffuse (i.e., "spread out").

    This is not happening.

    The probability that the flame or plasma is
    somehow "self cohesive" is essentially zero.

    So...another nail in the coffin of the old
    "0.01 Tor atmosphere" story....

    Come to think of it---the pictures made of
    the "polar jets" show that they also do not

    Yet another nail in the coffin of the old
    "0.01 Tor atmosphere" story....

    Everybody breathe easy...both here AND on Mars....


    Hathor - Earth, Wind and Fire in female form


    P.S.: "Polar jets" supposedly are nothing but
    CO2 breaking out from under the polar ice
    sheet at points, presumably due to subsurface
    sublimation across the entire ice sheet---
    something of an oddity in itself. One would
    expect massive fractures of the sheet, not
    "point failures." There are several other
    issues, but that's another thread.


  37. Hi starborne,

    The "polar jets" are not the plasma jets; the
    plasma jets are the ones in the area where
    the bat-like things were seen flying.

    The polar jets are supposedly just CO2 coming
    from below the Martian arctic ice sheet at
    weak points in the ice (which, as I said in a
    previous entry, is an oddity in itself, for
    several reasons).

    If the "spires of light" are jets of flame
    as a number of observers first thought,
    I find it interesting that the bat-like things
    would choose to fly over them....

    Riding the warm air currents---the updrafts---
    just like any hang-glider would do?

    If these are the great flying dragons I now
    suspect they may be, then they are exhibiting
    some interesting behaviors already.

    They like the "fire fountains of Mars"....

    Gives them a lift....

    (And *another* nail in the coffin for NASA's
    0.01 Tor atmosphere...I mean, *usable*
    thermal updrafts in 0.01 Tor? Spare me....)

    Now---as to links---

    I'll run some Google searches and see if I
    can pull up the images for you.

    I'll post it all here when I have it.


    Hathor - My Secretary/Typist/Office Administrator

    ...and a hot one, at that...


    P.S.: Just a little FYI---the polar jets look
    like simply a spray of air and dirt, while the
    plasma jets look as bright as the sun on a
    Martian day.

    You can't miss them....

    Also, the polar jets were shot from orbit,
    while the plasma jets were seen by one of
    the rovers (Pathfiner, I think, but it might
    have been Spirit).

    It was the orbital shots over the north pole
    that caught the "stampeding dunes."


  38. Maybe you could talk Richard Branson, Paul Allen and Bill gates into it.

  39. A very quick point.

    Gravity - or to keep everything on a level of totally far out - Expansion (see Mark McCuteheon's The Final Theory)

    The 'gravity' on Mars is only 1/3 that of Earth, so why oh why would life on Mars look exactly the same as it does on Earth. The same buildings, the same humans, the same animal life and all the same size.

    Common sense tells us it wouldn't.

    P.S. I can see my last comment still hasn't been published.

    Its a conspiracy! Hiding the truth and not allowing intellectual scientific debate - its a cover-up for sure.


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