tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post8773477371412916516..comments2023-12-13T15:01:10.195-08:00Comments on MIKE BARA.com: OK, What Was it?Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-7199715733930897602009-12-23T11:55:08.841-08:002009-12-23T11:55:08.841-08:00About 911...much as Iwould have prefered tobat aro...About 911...much as I<br>would have prefered to<br>bat around the spiral<br>some more---<br><br>---being a cat, naturally---<br><br>Would this be a good time to mention the<br>Dancing Israelis?<br><br>Or am I the only one who knows anything about<br>them?<br><br>:-)<br><br>Hathor -- chasing threads...<br><br>;-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-70494321928479451462009-12-23T10:36:29.941-08:002009-12-23T10:36:29.941-08:00Okay, Mike---How do you explain thelate Roscoe Whi...Okay, Mike---<br><br>How do you explain the<br>late Roscoe White making<br>open confession that HE fired the fatal shot from<br>behind the picket fence?<br><br>And then while you're at it, not OVER it, but<br>THROUGH it, where some of the boards had been removed.<br><br>I went there several times over the years, and<br>the removed boards lay undisturbed all that time.<br><br>They've since been replaced.<br><br>And the view angle was perfect, mind you.<br><br>So---who in the group has actually BEEN there<br>and checked out the situation?<br><br>And you've got the wrong angle for the kill shot,<br>Mike. It came from somewhere IN FRONT of JFK,<br>NOT from the "grassy knoll" where you say it<br>was Tippett.<br><br>Check out the autopsy info as to the entrance<br>and exit wounds. The grassy knoll as the source<br>of the kill shot just doesn't work.<br><br>The Mob guys involved have all been identified<br>over the last several years.<br><br>And they're all dead.<br><br>Murdered, every one of them.<br><br>:-)<br><br>Hathor -- watching from the shadows...<br><br>;-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-88316960858812975402009-12-23T09:21:53.562-08:002009-12-23T09:21:53.562-08:00Oswald was in the lineof fire.Any closer to the li...Oswald was in the line<br>of fire.<br><br>Any closer to the limo<br>and he would have been<br>hit himself.<br><br>I've seen the photo. Bob Katz, formerly of the<br>Assassination Information Bureau of Boston, MA,<br>showed it at an assembly I attended back in 1973.<br><br>You will NEVER convince ME that Oswald did ANY<br>shooting that day.<br><br>Look at the Zapruder film: Jackie turns sharply<br>to her right as if startled, just before she<br>disappears behind the sign.<br><br>Why?<br><br>OSWALD WAS RIGHT THERE SHOUTING "JACK!",<br>trying to warn him at the last second.<br><br>Oswald was Kennedy's man.<br><br>Convince me otherwise. Go on, try.<br><br>You'll never do it.<br><br>I've seen too much.<br><br>:-)<br><br>Hathor -- perusing "The Book Of Secrets"...<br><br>;-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-81495398775209602002009-12-23T05:31:13.120-08:002009-12-23T05:31:13.120-08:00Oswald SHOT JFK. It was Tippett on the grassy knol...Oswald SHOT JFK. It was Tippett on the grassy knoll that killed him. <br><br>I thought you read Dark Mission?Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-41261330551911654022009-12-22T23:35:39.869-08:002009-12-22T23:35:39.869-08:00And the missing New York seismic records? And all ...And the missing New York seismic records? And all the missing building and street videocam tapes?? And the heavily guarded disappearance and secret burial of the Tower's debris??? The refusal of the House committee to hear credible demolition expert testimony????...And who gave these expert jet certified clowns flying lessons?Elmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04891712259533347088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-42048802485811158012009-12-22T19:30:06.659-08:002009-12-22T19:30:06.659-08:00Period, eh, expat?I can see in the top of the towe...Period, eh, expat?<br><br>I can see in the top of the towers JUST FINE.<br><br>http://www.maxtheknife.com/wtc/01.jpg<br>http://www.maxtheknife.com/wtc/02.jpg<br>http://www.maxtheknife.com/wtc/03.jpg<br>http://www.maxtheknife.com/wtc/04.jpg<br><br>4 steel columns, reapeating steel (incredibly strong) lattice like structure, floors and walls hung on & around... yeah I get it.<br><br>What... did you think I posted that on my website without having done any other research or THINKING about it?<br><br>I posted that with the hope of getting the real 'morons' thinking critically about the facts. In my darkest dreams I never thought you would be one of them.<br><br>Lol... and as far as evidence that the towers fell at the rate of gravity... MARY & JOSEPH, watch any video of the collapse and COUNT for yourSELF.<br><br>So... Mike... If I can't cite basic geometry & physics, what can I cite? Should I just proclaim "beause I'm an authority figure and I say so" and then add, "period" for extra effect?<br><br>Isn't that the same kind of thinking & attitude that has relegated Cydonia to the status it is now? The same kind of thinking that allowed Oswald to be the patsy for all these years? The same kind of thinking that has suckered people into believing and inventing 'special conditions' that can make an <i><b>out of control missle</b></i> produce a PERFECT spiral in the skies over Norway in close proximity to a HAARP installation?<br><br>You are turning into a HUGE disappointment, Mike.<br><br><i><b>HUGE.</b></i><br><br>That's where the "period" belongs.<br><br>Pfft...MaxtheKnifehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08598244331584695655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-49356214367197677212009-12-22T16:45:45.090-08:002009-12-22T16:45:45.090-08:00Oh yeah, 'cause you can see inside the structu...Oh yeah, 'cause you can see inside the structure of that building so well from that photograph, right?<br><br>This is a prime example of the failure of our current education system. Allow me to fill in the gap.<br><br>Airplanes and some race cars (F-1, Indycars) use what is called a "monocoque" design. Simply put, what this means is that the skin itself (i.e. the pressurized fuselage of a jetliner, for example) is a stressed member of overall structure. The Twin Towers were essentially such a design, with the external lattice work supporting a considerable amount of the weight of the overall building. That's how they were able to build them so high, for one thing.<br><br>Now, once that monocoque is pierced, i.e. the airplane skin ruptures or the coke can is punctured, the overall stiffness of the remaining structure is dramatically weakened. <br><br>So here you have 2 massive top heavy buildings which have just lost maybe 25% of their exterior support structure (and actually more. The planes were flown in at an angle, so the wings cut through more floors, thereby weakening even more of the exterior lattice work on more floors. They also exited out the other side [see your linked photo], which created a huge gash almost halfway through the structure. The guys that flew these planes knew what they were doing). Add to that a fire which is bound to weaken the internal supports, and thousands of tons of steel and concrete above it are going to come down. It's just a matter of time.<br><br>So that's how the Towers fell.<br><br>Period. <br><br>Prove me wrong. But please, at least cite something other than your knowledge of the Laws of Physics.Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-51080028627358321892009-12-22T15:16:44.263-08:002009-12-22T15:16:44.263-08:00Simple physics shows that buildings don't come...Simple physics shows that buildings don't come down at freefall speed unless they have been imploded.<br><br>If the story was what we are told it is, why all the lies and inconsistencies? It reaks of coverup. <br><br>Are we to believe its just coincidence that the invasion of afganistan was already planned out the summer before 9/11 without there being any pretense for doing so before the so called attacks.<br><br><br>I'm beginning to suspect the worst of you Mike.Spiritsplicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17321166225861350640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-81220802855942830442009-12-22T10:09:40.083-08:002009-12-22T10:09:40.083-08:00Maybe I was wrong when I said you weren't stup...Maybe I was wrong when I said you weren't stupid.Spiritsplicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17321166225861350640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-23789929052240236742009-12-21T21:50:33.531-08:002009-12-21T21:50:33.531-08:00(continued)The spiral is a magnificent phenomenon ...(continued)<br><br><br>The spiral is a magnificent phenomenon for which jump-to explanations -- and the requisite evidence-shaping and selecting that ANY too-premature conclusion forces on a researcher -- need to be avoided. I note that the spin rate of the ejector object, as close as I could measure it, appears to be constant [please make independent verifications of this], and the motion of any released quantum of spiral-marker also appears to be purely radial outwards from the dispenser, at an angular rate that seemed constant within measurement uncertainty. <br><br>That angular rate should be expected to vary, assuming the absolute dispersal velocity remained constant. For any significant change in absolute range over the period of spiral formation, that might be expected to create a change in angular velocity, which if measurable would provide an indication of actual range and sense of motion. But my own attempted measurements were not fine enough to differentiate different potential geometrical/motion models. I invite serious investigators to try harder and report back.<br><br>The material comprising the spiral trail came from two separate points on the dispersal object, hence the double trail. And both dispersals are observed to terminate simultaneously and instantly. They do not tail off, or sputter, which I interpret as an indication that the dispersal, and its termination, was deliberately engineered for reasons not yet clear.<br><br>Considering the very high departure velocity of the ICBM at this stage and its still being on an ascent path, the spiral seeming to hang 'motionless' in the sky is an entirely reasonable consequence of its actual ballistic motion and the geometry of the observer's location.JimOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14320277948525739714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-39878059729735222152009-12-21T12:41:53.347-08:002009-12-21T12:41:53.347-08:00Come to think of it...If the spinning section is a...Come to think of it...<br><br>If the spinning section is a<br>booster...<br><br>The payload never would have reached the sea. Either---<br><br>(1) the payload was still attached to the booster,<br>in which case the spiral should indeed be in<br>some sense asymmetric, or<br><br>(2) even a detached upper stage did not receive<br>its needed boost, as the fuel required was<br>being sprayed all over the sky to create the<br>spiral.<br><br>In either case, JimO's "explanation" makes no<br>engineering sense whatsoever.<br><br>:-)<br><br>Hathor -- seeing the light....<br><br>;-)<br><br>P.S.: Unless I'm missing something here, the<br>spiral was OVER LAND.<br><br>So where's the wreckage?<br><br>There has to be SOMETHING....<br><br>:-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-86740404119258959002009-12-21T10:47:27.538-08:002009-12-21T10:47:27.538-08:00(*sigh*)It's a cat's life....Actually, Fin...(*sigh*)<br><br>It's a cat's life....<br><br>Actually, Finnegan, I thought your take on the<br>spinning stage just hovering in the sky with<br>no obvious means of support was pretty good.<br>I should have thought of that myself.<br><br>I guess it takes an Irishman, huh?<br><br>(*wink*)<br><br>:-)<br><br>Hathor -- secretly admiring this newcomer...<br><br>;-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-2153000479464980122009-12-21T10:36:02.518-08:002009-12-21T10:36:02.518-08:00Aye, ye flea-bitten furbag.Where have you been?Did...Aye, ye flea-bitten furbag.<br><br>Where have you been?<br><br>Did you expect ol' Finnegan to make mincemeat<br>of JimO, and then bring you the kibbles?<br><br>Now isn't that just like a housecat to sit on his<br>big furry tail and watch while somebody else<br>takes down the prey.<br><br>Hungry now?<br><br>Here, kitty-kitty!<br><br>(IMFLH)Finneganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00425331751663414491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-79508449643794200082009-12-21T10:25:10.488-08:002009-12-21T10:25:10.488-08:00Let's stick to this thread,now shall we lads?W...Let's stick to this thread,<br>now shall we lads?<br><br>Well, Jimmy boy, are ye game to stand up and<br>answer Finnegan?<br><br>Or am I too much for you?<br><br>(IMFLH)<br><br>There's this spinnin' junkpile up in the sky<br>over Norway, hoverin' pretty as ye please, held<br>up by what? Antigravity?<br><br>Aye, I've heard the Russians were workin' on it,<br>but I'd call that a bit of an odd way to give us<br>all a demonstration!<br><br>RUBBISH!<br><br>So, maybe it was held up by faeries. And where<br>did it fall when they let it go?<br><br>Did they toss it off to the sea to join the rest<br>of it? Or did it fall straight down like a Blarney<br>Stone From The Sky to kiss the sands of Norway?<br><br>No? And why not? Tell us, JimO, if ye know so<br>much about it!<br><br>MORE RUBBISH!<br><br>And did ye decide which stage it was, either the<br>second or the third, was it now?<br><br>Let's say it's the second. How'd the third stage<br>know when to clear off, and go on it's way to<br>the sea? Could it have? Or did it?<br><br>So why's the spiral so nice and neat?<br><br>Ought to be cockeyed, like your explanation of<br>the spiral!<br><br>STILL MORE RUBBISH!<br><br>And if the third stage is hangin' on to the second,<br>what landed in the sea? The FOURTH stage?<br><br>How many in God's name are there?<br><br>Five? Ten? Twenty?<br><br>I've heard the Russians build 'em big, but this is<br>gettin' ridiculous now. Kind of like the British<br>Army comin' back to Belfast for another go.<br><br>RUBBISH, ALL OF IT!<br><br>And while we're at it, what happened to that<br>oversized housecat?<br><br>Where'd HE go?<br><br>You'd think he'd be in the fray someplace, but<br>no, he leaves it to Finnegan to do his fightin'<br>for him!<br><br>Well, I'll toast the real Irishmen here, Spiritsplice<br>and Adrian!<br><br>Here's to ye, lads!<br><br>(IMFLH)Finneganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00425331751663414491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-42777664271736064702009-12-20T11:12:19.213-08:002009-12-20T11:12:19.213-08:00Sword says:I stated that the whole big issue with ...Sword says:<br><br><i>I stated that the whole big issue with 2012 was the return of the star of craossing and all teh "fortold" things to come listed in the bible - most notable of course where the bible entries in Matthew.<br>I'm fairly certain that over the course of the three "CHRIST-MASS" bloggs I get into the meat of the issue.<br>I also stated years ago that we should be able to "see" this return. Still no evaluation of that ifrared item linked from google sky that for some reason was "blacked" out...<br>...come to think of it - Bara and company have revisted this "Star of Crossing" recently - still pushing the "brown dwarf" angle...<br>tsk-tsk... ...they know better</i><br><br>What say you?The Foolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09657750504589869119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-14605346609942795902009-12-19T07:53:40.278-08:002009-12-19T07:53:40.278-08:00Well, Jimmy boy!It looks as if some of thefellas g...Well, Jimmy boy!<br><br>It looks as if some of the<br>fellas got in a lick or two<br>ahead of me.<br><br>Must be Irishmen!<br><br>(IMFLH)<br><br>Mighty consistent that spinnin' bit o' junk you<br>say was a rocket. Perfect circles it forms, now,<br>does it?<br><br>With mathematical precision, no less.<br><br>And a blatherskite like yourself would explain this<br>how? Luck of the Irish?<br><br>I thought ye said it was Russian.<br><br>Maybe it was the Faerie Queen.<br><br>RUBBISH!<br><br>And the flight path was what? Perpendicular to<br>the spiral?<br><br>Aye, turns on a dime it does. Right fancy those<br>new Russian playtoys. Learned a lot since the<br>wall came down, haven't they.<br><br>MORE RUBBISH!<br><br>And so, it just put on the old brakes, and the lift<br>vector was what, now? While the rest of it<br>went on its way, on course and on schedule?<br><br>STILL MORE RUBBISH!<br><br>And I see yer havin' a bit o' trouble deciding<br>which particular part o' the thing went blewy.<br><br>Make up your mind, will you!<br><br>RUBBISH, ALL OF IT!<br><br>Salutations to m'fellow Irishmen, Spiritsplice and<br>Adrian.<br><br>Give 'em hell, lads!<br><br>Yer good at it!<br><br>(IMFLH)Finneganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00425331751663414491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-22865301702151224082009-12-17T22:02:21.297-08:002009-12-17T22:02:21.297-08:00Spiritsplice: "6 -- Because if it simply were...Spiritsplice: "6 -- Because if it simply were something such as fuel left behind it would have no reason to simply disappear from the inside out. The freshest material would be on the INSIDE of the spiral and therefore would stay the longest. The fact that it disappears from the inside out (at a rather alarming rate I might add) is clear evidence the cover story is bogus."<br><br>I think the material is being spewed out from the object at a constant radially rate, and the concentration grows dimmer and thinner as it moves out radially. The spiral is being painted by the rotation of the dispenser. I think you have overlooked the radial velocity of the white (sunlit!) material.JimOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14320277948525739714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-57166616107431591462009-12-17T21:20:48.965-08:002009-12-17T21:20:48.965-08:00That's horrible news. If he doesn't want t...That's horrible news. If he doesn't want to do the book then you ought to figure out a way to do it yourself. <br><br>I mean its either important or it isn't. And if if was important enough to do once...Spiritsplicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17321166225861350640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-45961971623102181132009-12-17T19:37:59.477-08:002009-12-17T19:37:59.477-08:00OMG. Where do I start....Perhaps with, "the l...OMG. Where do I start....<br><br>Perhaps with, "the lie is different at every level." Perhaps you recall that?<br><br>When you ignore clear evidence of lies and deciet it makes you look like you are part of the in crowd pretending to be one of us. <br><br>1 No, they wouldn't declare war on a superpower but they would condemn it and so on like Governments always do in the papers, call it a potential act of war, etc. They would not just ignore it. I have also heard from people living there and NOTHING has been said about it at all. Not even calling it a missile.<br><br>2 The projection point is clearly seen in most of the pictures. You can see the projection is also directional.<br><br>http://picasaweb.google.com/spiritsplice/Norway#5416351675827544098 <br><br>3 That pause is your conscience IMO. "or whatever it was.." What else could it be if the missile story were true? Confetti?<br><br>4 One? or One primarily? Which is it? If you look at the video you can see the two being made in different directions simultaneously. Here is a crop from the IR image. <br><br>http://picasaweb.google.com/spiritsplice/Norway#5416359423572847410<br><br>Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRKfLYwX-q0 you can see both of them at 0:23. <br><br>5 This showed up the same day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4 Coments were conveniently disabled. It is also worth noting that like Climategate, the google search suggestion for "norway spiral" has been removed from the search engine. <br><br>We also have this debunking hit piece from MSNBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRKfLYwX-q0<br><br>6 Because if it simply were something such as fuel left behind it would have no reason to simply disappear from the inside out. The freshest material would be on the INSIDE of the spiral and therefore would stay the longest. The fact that it disappears from the inside out (at a rather alarming rate I might add) is clear evidence the cover story is bogus. <br><br>8 Continued diffusion and gravity would destroy the nice pattern we see displayed in seconds. There is no way it could hold such nice coherency even under ideal weather conditions.<br><br>9 It is the case. Check it out. <br><br>11 If it had landed on his hotel then fine, otherwise it is a pretty lame demonstration. I also don't buy that they can't get their missiles to work. <br><br>Another point I should add is the "feeling" once gets on an intuitive level when watching the entire footage, especially when the black hole opens. Anyone even remotely sensitive to energy will get a very odd feeling when paying close attention to this thing.Spiritsplicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17321166225861350640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-13690825652204141242009-12-17T13:58:20.332-08:002009-12-17T13:58:20.332-08:00Mike,Dark Mission 2 is for when ?Mike,<br><br>Dark Mission 2 is for when ?Heruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10993030455572437755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-63647557020430197302009-12-17T11:12:05.632-08:002009-12-17T11:12:05.632-08:00Oh good lord....:-)Hathor -- speak of the devil......Oh good lord....<br><br>:-)<br><br>Hathor -- speak of the devil...<br><br>;-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-65999059231986071302009-12-17T09:55:00.919-08:002009-12-17T09:55:00.919-08:00And as long as we're on the subject, no I don&...And as long as we're on the subject, no I don't believe every conspiracy theory that comes along. I require evidence. Let's go down the list:<br><br>1 - We never went to the Moon - Absurd. Idiotic.<br><br>2 - TWA-800 - A missile. Indisputably.<br><br>3 - Oklahoma City - Absolutely. "John Doe #2" is the spitting image of Jose Padilla. <br><br>4 - 9\11 - Please. It was a plane that hit the Pentagon. George W. Bush did not fly planes into the Trade Centers. As to the 20 dollar bills? Interesting. Not conclusive.<br><br>5 - Flight 527 - Yes. Amazing how the NTSB can ignore the eyewitness testimony of dozens of people who saw an explosion in front of the wing, an engine tear off and take the tail off, but they still managed to decide less than an hour after the incident that there was no terrorist involvement. Translation: Shoe bomber #1<br><br>6 - JFK Assassination - See Chapter 4, Dark Mission - The Secret History of NASAMike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-57872848284628234982009-12-17T09:08:24.023-08:002009-12-17T09:08:24.023-08:00Thanks Jim... I think.Thanks Jim... I think.Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-25355462784146965682009-12-17T08:22:38.585-08:002009-12-17T08:22:38.585-08:00Good post, Adrian.Right on target.:-)Hathor -- on ...Good post, Adrian.<br><br>Right on target.<br><br>:-)<br><br>Hathor -- on the web...<br><br>;-)<br><br>P.S.: For those who didn't follow the connection<br>to the Overhauser Effect, the point was this:<br><br>Rotating polarization of the microwave radiators<br>serves in lieu of having a magnetic field at the<br>target, as with a normal Overhauser lab hookup.<br><br>So...since there was no magnet in the sky....<br>(Such as would be needed, anyway....)<br><br>:-))))marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-42960878839648637842009-12-17T07:11:14.864-08:002009-12-17T07:11:14.864-08:00I have to say I still can't fathom your take o...I have to say I still can't fathom your take on 9/11. There are hard facts that question the official "government" story. Ask Barry Jennings if he thinks a boiler explosion and fire brought down #7, or better yet, why the 9/11 commission didn't bother to investigate it.telstar1http://www.blogger.com/profile/15828845268191857663noreply@blogger.com