tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post5688809588212489883..comments2023-12-13T15:01:10.195-08:00Comments on MIKE BARA.com: NASA to Make Annoucement Today - Have They Found Planet X?Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-12271865894884450562008-05-28T09:32:00.000-07:002008-05-28T09:32:00.000-07:00Aw, expat, I was just trying to be humorous.(At yo...Aw, expat, I was just trying to be humorous.<br><br>(At your expense, of course!)<br><br>Aren't I terrible?<br><br>:-))))<br><br>P.S.:<br>>> I'm not going to comment on my degree of expertise in photo-processing, for the very simple reason that it's completely beside the point. <<<br><br>Okay. So...the point is...?<br><br>:-))))marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-54699360719314180282008-05-28T06:52:00.000-07:002008-05-28T06:52:00.000-07:00>>But hey...maybe you don't.... :-))))&l...>>But hey...maybe you don't.... :-))))<<<br><br>I'm not going to comment on my degree of expertise in photo-processing, for the very simple reason that it's completely beside the point.expathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-80183980179802779132008-05-27T20:55:00.000-07:002008-05-27T20:55:00.000-07:00Thanks Mike and Marsandro... ;o3Library staff ten...Thanks Mike and Marsandro... ;o3<br><br>Library staff tend to like word-games, puns, and so forth, so I suppose I come by it semi-naturally.<br><br>Oh, and I forgot one:<br><br>pareidolunatic-- someone who thinks that everything on the Moon is nothing more than natural planetary geology.<br><br>Peace,<br><br>T'ZairisT'Zairishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06712811228926265329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-9962122827937217512008-05-27T16:38:00.000-07:002008-05-27T16:38:00.000-07:00Three Cheers For T'Zairis!:-)):-)):-))Three Cheers For T'Zairis!<br><br>:-))<br><br>:-))<br><br>:-))marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-70596784493768320392008-05-27T16:28:00.000-07:002008-05-27T16:28:00.000-07:00Expat---a quick addendum--->> There are alre...Expat---a quick addendum---<br><br>>> There are already *numerous* examples<br>of notable science fiction writers having<br>written everything from novels to comic<br>books about things that subsequently have<br>been found on the Moon and Mars. <<<br><br>More accurately, "found" by independent<br>persons such as Hoagland and others who<br>are researching these anomalies.<br><br>NASA already knew the stuff was there.<br><br>How could they not? And how DARE they not,<br>for billions of dollars in taxpayer money?<br><br>:-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-9202963326897018102008-05-27T16:20:00.000-07:002008-05-27T16:20:00.000-07:00>> Yeah, created by an advanced civilization...>> Yeah, created by an advanced civilization thousands of years ago in imitation of a Hollywood prop that wasn't dreamed up until 1977. <<<br><br>Or it could be the other way around.<br><br>Perhaps the "Hollywood prop" was made in<br>imitation of something someone had seen<br>in, perhaps, some image provided to them<br>"under the table," so to speak, by a friend<br>"on the inside" at NASA.<br><br>Damn clever, those scifi writers....<br><br>By the way---<br><br>Have you forgotten the Shatner post already?<br><br>Does the name Ken Johnston ring a bell?<br><br>There are already *numerous* examples<br>of notable science fiction writers having<br>written everything from novels to comic<br>books about things that subsequently have<br>been found on the Moon and Mars.<br><br>This could simply be another example of THAT.<br><br>Now---on the topic of image processing---<br><br>Unless I'm going totally senile even as I<br>write this, RCH is acquainted with such Mars<br>notables as Vince DiPietro, the co-developer<br>of something called "SPIT Processing."<br><br>Sharpens images right up....<br><br>Gross name, to be sure, but an excellent<br>method of image enhancement.<br><br>RCH probably uses something similar, if I<br>had to guess. (And I'm only guessing.)<br><br>:-)<br><br>P.S.: Oh, alright, you were right that<br>Mike blew it when he *assumed* you didn't<br>know anything about image processing.<br>But hey...maybe you don't.... :-))))<br><br>:-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-51501913345114870672008-05-27T16:13:00.000-07:002008-05-27T16:13:00.000-07:00Hilarious! I gotta send that one to Hoagy!Hilarious! I gotta send that one to Hoagy!Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-52052583572747416212008-05-27T16:06:00.000-07:002008-05-27T16:06:00.000-07:00Well, as long as the crowd over at Debunkville get...Well, as long as the crowd over at Debunkville gets to create artificial jargon, we ought to get equal time...<br><br>pareidolatry-- accepting pseudo-scientific terms at face value, and/or giving a term more weight in an argument based on the fact that it sounds Latin or Greek.<br><br>pareidiot-- a person who makes up jargon or outlandish terminology to disguise the fact that they have no hard data to debate with.<br><br>pareidoglossolalia-- speech laced with excessive 'jargonese' in order to confuse an issue or divert attention from it.<br><br>pareidolianthemum-- a troublesome type of Martian crinoid fossil that might give Earth-based paleontolgists ideas if Mars rovers didn't immediately grind them to dust the minute they discover them.<br><br>pareidology-- the cultivation of across-the-board skepticism as a knee-jerk reaction and/or personal religious philosophy.<br><br>pareidologist-- a believer in/practitioner of pareidology.<br><br>pareidolapologist-- Carl Sagan, et al.<br>______________________________<br><br>And last but not least, a riddle...<br><br>Q: When is a crinoid fossil not a crinoid fossil?<br><br>A: When it's on Mars.<br>______________________________<br><br><br>Peace,<br><br>T'ZairisT'Zairishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06712811228926265329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-50138915288445542822008-05-27T15:04:00.000-07:002008-05-27T15:04:00.000-07:00>>I wouldn't be too surprised tofind a d...>>I wouldn't be too surprised to<br>find a disembodied robot head <<<br><br>Yeah, created by an advanced civilization thousands of years ago in imitation of a Hollywood prop that wasn't dreamed up until 1977.<br><br>Damn clever, those moonies....<br><br>...and how hilarious that Mike Bara should conclude I know nothing about photo processing, on the basis that I asked for details of how Hoagland derived <a href="http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/data/6.jpg" rel="nofollow">THIS</a> from that Hasselblad frame.expathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-8402042023389648632008-05-27T14:15:00.000-07:002008-05-27T14:15:00.000-07:00Ever so absolutely Right, Sir Mike!I agree complet...Ever so absolutely Right, Sir Mike!<br><br>I agree completely. Hear, hear!<br><br>You'll notice I didn't necessarily use the<br>term so much as if it were valid, as with a<br>certain measured contempt.<br><br>It is perfectly clear to any thinking person<br>that even if "pareidolia" *were* a legitimate<br>"clinical" term, that it clearly would have<br>to have <b>limits of applicability.<br></b><br>Specifically, one might use such a hokey<br>"term" for "spotting fwuffy bunnies" in clouds,<br>but when you are dealing with dozens, or even<br>hundreds, of details, then, obviously, the notion<br>that it's "pareidolia" is patently ridiculous.<br><br>The only reason I even invoked the term was<br>to beat any critics to the punch.<br><br>Just call me, "Fight Club Marsandro." ;-)<br><br>:-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-27187504121198012032008-05-27T12:09:00.000-07:002008-05-27T12:09:00.000-07:00Expat,"Find The Robot," indeed....I look...Expat,<br><br>"Find The Robot," indeed....<br><br>I looked at the image you referenced, and...<br><br>After a few moments, I noticed that a number<br>of the "rock formations" had the shape of<br>giant fallen robots that appeared to have been<br>fighting each other.<br><br>Pareidolia? Perhaps.<br><br>But then---<br><br>It reminded me of a YouTube video that<br>showed a pan-animation of Mars Pathfinder<br>images of what had been perceived to be<br>"just rocks," but when viewed in sequence<br>like a video pan, you could see clearly that<br>it was the skeleton of what I would have to<br>describe as a great flying dragon type of<br>creature.<br><br>You could see the tail, the hip bone, the<br>hind legs and clawed feet, the spine, the<br>ribs, the shoulder blades, the front legs<br>and clawed front feet, and the head of<br>what reminded me of a Tyrannosaurus Rex.<br><br>Definitely NOT "pareidolia." There was<br>entirely too much clear anatomical detail.<br><br>The "rock robots" were all pretty much the<br>"same make and model" from the looks of<br>it. Same size, same shape. Varying degrees<br>of battle damage.<br><br>And they're BIG. Once you recognize them,<br>you can't miss them.<br><br>Given that, I wouldn't be too surprised to<br>find a disembodied robot head (even if it's<br>difficult to find in the full frame at that<br>resolution), assuming, of course, that<br>"pareidolia" was not involved.<br><br>The ultimate solution to the problem posed by<br>this information is to go back.<br><br>We'll just have to check it out in person.<br><br>:-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-5562208127775410812008-05-23T11:20:00.000-07:002008-05-23T11:20:00.000-07:00Thanks Mike, I look forward to the info!Thanks Mike, I look forward to the info!Starbornehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16089045672245973663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-65246493134819241762008-05-22T13:06:00.000-07:002008-05-22T13:06:00.000-07:00"It's there (or it was there before they ..."It's there (or it was there before they retrieved it)..."<br><br>Only you could misinterpret a statement as clear as this.<br><br>But you didn't "misinterpret" it, did you? You're just trying to distract from the rest of the post.Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-51877877860049050342008-05-22T11:44:00.000-07:002008-05-22T11:44:00.000-07:00>>..or it was there before they retrieved it...>>..or it was there before they retrieved it..<<<br><br>So now are you saying definitively that this object was retrieved? How do you know that? How do you reconcile this statement with your previous <i>emphatic</i> assertion "we never said they retrieved it, only that they could have"?<br><br>PS: For those attempting to follow this dialog who don't have the original image at their fingertips, <a href="http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-21000HR.jpg" rel="nofollow">here it is</a>. You can play the interesting game "find the robot". Have fun.expathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-89035921420546702352008-05-22T06:26:00.000-07:002008-05-22T06:26:00.000-07:00No expat, it's actually "safest" to ...No expat, it's actually "safest" to assume you don't know anything about how images are processed.<br><br>It's not my fault you don't know how to do that, yet are determined to comment on it in any event. We gave the frame number in the book, and anyone with a minimum competency in this area can order the frames, process the images and repeat the work. If you actually knew anything about how this is done, you'd know that C3-PO is so far above the threshold of doubt that we never considered the possibility that it was a product of enhancement artifacting. It's there (or it was there before they retrieved it), it looks like a head, it's the right size for a head, it looks like C3-PO's head. Period.<br><br>Why don't you spend a year or so over on Keith Laney's board? If you're lucky - and a lot nicer to them than you are to anyone over here - you might learn enough to actually make an intelligent comment once in a while.Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-8605677526578830812008-05-21T21:37:00.000-07:002008-05-21T21:37:00.000-07:00I think a post of mine got lost a day or so back, ...I think a post of mine got lost a day or so back, so I'll try again...<br><br>Adrian-- Yes, I saw 'Total Recall' when it first came out. The movie was based on a Philip K. Dick story, and I have always thought that something very novel and worth noting was going on in PKD's consciousness- field.<br><br>Marsandro-- I had an experience like yours with acupuncture, which I think is a sort of 'low-tech Rife'(needle-transducers at resonant biofield points). I was being treated for a problem with my neck, but I was also cured of a bursitis-like problem in one of my shoulders at the same time (which I had not mentioned to the acupuncturist), and I have never since had any difficulty. It is flat-out amazing, and yes, it does work!<br><br>I, too, am waiting for more on Iapetus! Hope there is more soon!<br><br>Peace,<br><br>T'ZairisT'Zairishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06712811228926265329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-27017945016344413882008-05-19T21:03:00.000-07:002008-05-19T21:03:00.000-07:00As I recall, they did find stuff where they expect...As I recall, they did find stuff where they expected, but I don't remember the details.Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-61998481564951326532008-05-19T20:40:00.000-07:002008-05-19T20:40:00.000-07:00Mike, it sure would be cool if youguys could find ...Mike, it sure would be cool if youguys could find that. I always wondered if they ever found anything where the Face, D&M and City would be. I wondered if they ever took a metal detector or something over the areas, or if there were any ancient structures over those areas. Insteresting stuff.jjrakmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14546330884554172704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-26767165947987602432008-05-19T17:03:00.000-07:002008-05-19T17:03:00.000-07:00I had a listen to Exopolitics Radioprogram from 5-...I had a listen to Exopolitics Radio<br>program from 5-17-08 about the timing of the Vatican chief astronomer's interview in the official Vatican newspaper. The interview was published on May 13, 2008, 91 years after the May 13, 1917 appearance of "the Virgin Mary" at Fatima, Portugal, before a large crowd which witnessed a big flying disk hover over them.<br>In the opinion of the host, the Vatican has known all along that the Fatima event was a UFO/ET event.<br><br>Also on the show, an interview with Stephen Bassett on ETs and the 2008 election.<br><br>www.exopolitics.com<br><br>GortGorthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06092509436708659934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-31880165211829594642008-05-19T16:25:00.000-07:002008-05-19T16:25:00.000-07:00Hi T'zairis,I have had occaision to use a &quo...Hi T'zairis,<br><br>I have had occaision to use a "BioUltraGen"<br>machine to cure crippling arthritis in my right hand.<br><br>It worked.<br><br>After only three of the required five to seven<br>treatments (and two weeks of intense pain<br>because I didn't follow up with the remaining<br>treatments), I was cured.<br><br>CURED. Completely. Permanently.<br><br>And all over.<br><br>I was doing some circuit design work for<br>Loren Zanier out in California at the time,<br>and he let me use the machine to help with<br>some health problems I had been having<br>due to "chem trail spraying" in Canada.<br><br>That's a little story in itself....<br><br>Anyway, this was a dramatic introduction<br>to the technology of Rife, and I have never<br>forgotten the lesson.<br><br>Several years earlier, I had come across<br>the Lorentz Force Generator used by Rick<br>Andersen to save one of his dying plants,<br>and I have developed an idea for a modified<br>version of the machine to treat myself...<br>to a little potential rejuvenation (no pun<br>intended).<br><br>It can even be used as an "electromagnetic"<br>Rife machine. The modifications are simple.<br><br>I can't wait to build the thing. I need<br>the space, the money...the usual....<br><br>I can park it right next to my telescope that<br>I use to scan for Planet X....<br><br>(I had to get that in somewhere!)<br><br>:-)marsandrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160904567767011856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-72013864584149889182008-05-19T16:22:00.000-07:002008-05-19T16:22:00.000-07:00Yeah, they made a trip to England, and I think it ...Yeah, they made a trip to England, and I think it was written up in one of the old Mars Mission newsletters. I've been trying to find good copies of them so we can eventually post them as pdf's.Mike Barahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17172462170076618847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-60125976035165527312008-05-19T15:26:00.000-07:002008-05-19T15:26:00.000-07:00Mike, I have a question about the UN video. In it...Mike, <br><br>I have a question about the UN video. In it, Mr. Hoagland talks towards the end about a potential scale model to Cydonia here on Earth. In that the Avesbury/Hillsbury site may be a scale model of the Tholus/Crater. <br><br>He then speculated if there would be a matching face, city and D & M. But that research was ongoing into that possibility. <br><br>Any developments on that front?jjrakmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14546330884554172704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-14048575108663591742008-05-19T04:15:00.000-07:002008-05-19T04:15:00.000-07:00Hey t'zairisOn forehand...there's no pun i...Hey t'zairis<br><br>On forehand...there's no pun intended but have you seen the movie Totall Recall by Paul Verhoeven?<br><br>Already in this film (1990) there a lot of mentioning about pyramids on Mars and alien artifact's....hell...the whole storyline is based on itAdrianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16512514836115409526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-4476823134352697772008-05-17T16:18:00.000-07:002008-05-17T16:18:00.000-07:00gort: I wouldn't ask Buzz Aldrin's opinion...gort: I wouldn't ask Buzz Aldrin's opinion of Richard Hoagland if I were you. Buzz may be getting on but his left hook is still deadly....expathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4063802215119596545.post-26333142873329540432008-05-17T10:30:00.000-07:002008-05-17T10:30:00.000-07:00The Memorial Day Air Show is May 24-25, 2008. Mem...The Memorial Day Air Show is May 24-25, 2008. Memorial Day, not Labor Day (Oops--I always get those two mixed up--I guess 'cause one is a big BBQ holiday at the beginning of summer and the other is a big BBQ holiday at the end of summer.)<br><br>Memorial Day in some areas is still a day to remember and decorate the graves of all loved ones who have passed on.<br><br>For a lot of people it is a day to remember dead veterans, although it apparently has evolved into a day to remember or salute all veterans, dead and living. This despite already having Veterans Day in November.<br><br>Memorial Day is also an excuse to sell cars, have big sales events at malls and big box stores, go to the lake, watch the Indy 500, BBQ, etc. Also to put money in the firefighters boot and watch that goofy Jerry Lewis on TV.<br><br>Labor Day is the last big weekend of the summer, BBQ, car sales, mall and big box store sales, start following baseball teams that might have a chance to make the playoffs..., did I mention BBQ?, and oh, Labor Day is supposed to have something to do with "organized labor."<br><br>Most of the rest of the world celebrates labor day on May Day, to remember the Haymarket Square massacre in Chicago.<br>Workers of the World, Unite!!!!<br>:)Gorthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06092509436708659934noreply@blogger.com